B-Side (Around My Way Producer) Responds to T.R.O.Y. Remake


Looks like B-Side, who co-produced Around My Way, has a thread going on on the Soulstrut forum regarding the whole remake controversy:

Yes, its a remake of T.R.O.Y, .... Yes, I did it. Me and my production partner DJ Simonsayz produced it.

It was something he wanted to do, and I thought his lyrics were cool. We did it with no samples, as per instruction, and it was pretty damn tough to pull off. I think we did a pretty good job. I did not know that Pete Rock would be so pissed..... Truth be told, I thought he was in the loop with it.. but no matter.

I certainly didn't intend to come out and shit on pete rock in any way. He's always been one of my biggest influences, and he's a hip hop legend. It feels kind of bad to have one of your idols come out and diss you. But I understand his perspective. I will say that the vast majority of kids I talk to have never heard the original, and maybe this will get them to go back and pay attention to the first record.

The legal issues with using the original made it pretty impossible from a modern major label perspective, My intent was to pay tribute in the best way I could and maybe make something cool and new, with an obvious homage to the original version.

I have tons of original beats, people that know me on here know that. Its not even the first time I've been asked to remake this track for someone. All in all I thought it came out pretty dope.

Maybe I shouldnt even be speaking on this, but there it is. Redoing it gave me a new appreciation for Pete's original production and how intricate and complicated it was. I dont blog and I'm not active on twitter, so I figured Id put this here.

Anyways, you can hate me now. I'm just trying to get over like the rest of yall though.

Peace, B

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I mean, i know it probably doesn't mean anything, but my version was made with no samples. We called in a sax player and everything. When you look at the original, its a sample of tom scott, covering a Jefferson airplane song and using james brown drums. Not really possible to use these days.

I can't really blame anyone who knows the original for not being excited for the remake, but theres a lot of kids out there that have never heard the original before.

For what its worth, Tom Scott gave his blessing. Technically Im not even sure we needed to clear things that far as its an interpolation of a cover song.

I've got a couple other joints with dude that will hopefully make the album that are much more original. In the meantime, its cool to say I have a single for a major artist. I've been doing this shit a long time without that. No one can say I havent paid my dues.

Just wanted to come back to the strut to talk about it. Cause if it weren't for this place, I probably wouldn't have known the original in the first place. I hope that it helps to know I worshipped at the alter of mecca and the soul brother, and have tracked my own copy of honeysuckle breeze out of the dollar bins years ago.

I did my best to keep things as funky as tom scott's Birkenstocks, and I hope Pete will see this as the honest tribute it was meant to be eventually.

Oh well, hopefully y'all enjoy it and hear something more original from me next!

In my opinion, and this is no disrespect to anyone, it's all fair game. I mean sampling/remixing is one of the fundamentals of Hip Hop that actually helped birth the culture. On top of that, you can tell that this record was meant to up Hip Hop and pay homage to a classic record. I mean even Pete Rock sampled the beat when he originally made it. Honestly, none of us have the "authority" to label a record/sample/etc as an untouchable one.

What do you all think about this situation and just sampling in general? Leave your thoughts in the comment section.


Props Egotripland via Soulstrut

15 comments:

  1. lupe's version is wack...should have left it alone

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  2. I love it Lupe shut it down, shut the fuck up!

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  3. I just wished it was flipped better.

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  4. How is Lupe's version whack? I would like for people to explain this in depth.

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  5. lupes version was sooo dirty and full of TRUTH!!!

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  6. What i don't understand is why Pete Rock is so upset if atlantic/lupe cleared all the samples. If they straight up made the beat and Pete Rock has no knowledge of them clearing samples then I can understand him being pissed. But here he knew about them using his beat in the song so I don't understand why he's getting so butt hurt by it.

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  7. FIRST OF...FUCK PETE ROCK! FUCK CL SMOOTH FOR GOOD MEASURE. BUT ANYWAY...PETE ROCK SIMPLE CLOWN ASS DIDNT EVEN CREAT THE PART OF THE BEAT THAT HES COMPLAINING ABOUT! HE SAMPLED IT....GET THIS...HE SAMPLED IT...FROM SOMEBODY WHO SAMPLED IT! SO WHAT THE FUCK IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT?????

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  8. HOW DARE THIS...SAXAPHONE SAMPLE JACKING ASSHOLLE TRY AND HATE ON THE NEWNESS! B- SIDES AND MY BROTHER SI-GUNZ...ARE IN MY OPINION...BETTER THAN THAT BASTARD PETE ROCK...IF YOU COMBINE THEY TALENTS.
    WHAT AN IRRELEVANT HASBEEN ASS DICK.

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  9. damn, how the fk are u guys gonna diss Pete Rock? the man is a legend. go back and learn ur history.

    i don't think u can use the excuse that it's a sample. samples are flipped in different ways. this was a straight rip off of TROY.

    i love Lupe's lyrics on the track, and all this talk of the beat is taking away from what really matters. i'm glad they sorted it all out now.

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  10. Just because someone is a legend does not give them the right to be disrespectful and throw temper tantrums...

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  11. Bishop is on bullshit... And I love it! Lol...

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  12. Just wanted to add my input to this even though it's over. Now, the issue is not on sampling the classic. The issue is how poorly done the sample of the track was done, and how it's chopped in the same way, and basically used almost a downgraded unaltered beat of T.R.O.Y. When Pete Rock made T.R.O.Y he added he uniqueness, and showed creativity. For example, the way he had the horn riffs, cymbals, the reverb, and change the bass line come all together to make his own piece of unique original art. The producer of Around My Way didn't do that, and didn't even try to add anything new, and make his own work of art, but choose to be lazy with just mimicking the same way the beat was first made, and not even doing a good job at that too.

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  13. yeppp...U COULDA KEPT THAT SHIT 800 M ERIC! THE WHOLE TRACK WAS REMADE! NO SAMPLES. SO SHOVE THE ORIGINAL SAMPLED TRACK...AND YOUR OPINION...UP THAT ASS!

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  14. Peace. I usually stay in my hole but I'm coming out today to say that I think Pete Rock is one of the best that ever did it. He was ass wrong to come out like that tho. (period).

    The new version is dope as hell! No samples!? The real sax!? The underwater-type break...come on man that shit is nice! Plus, I don't think Pete listened to one lyric of the song- if he did, he could not have been THAT heated. Unless he felt his ego err his signature should been on the papers...and he knew he was get some Atlantic $...smh

    Salaam Lupe - be you!
    B-Side - that joint is nice. definitely a sweet reminiscent of the original- which I believe was the intention.

    -woolyhatkat

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